The Way That Leadeth To Father Barron

This fine Michael Voris video puts at the centre of our attention a very simple concept: some clergymen will not allow a small nuisance like Our Lord to get in the way of their own marketing effort.

This is very evident in the effort of Father Barron to downplay or even deny the existence of hell as a concrete possibility for the likes of you and me – and, very obviously, for the likes of him -.

Voris makes an obvious point: when you start to doubt Hell as a concrete possibility for everyone of us you have undermined the very core of the message of Christ. But then again, there are a lot of clergymen around (and I do not except the Bishop of Rome; most certainly not) who truly seem not to have any idea of what Christianity is about.

One must not agree with Voris’ every word, but it is very difficult to disagree with the message.

Personally, I am more optimistic than he is concerning the chances of salvation of baptised Catholics, following the opinion of Garrigou-Lagrange and his serene confidence God’s efficacious grace irresistibly takes many baptised Christians, and a bigger number of Catholics, out of the worst; but then again, when Garrigou-Lagrange thought of a generic “Christian” or “Catholic” in 1950 he had in mind a much different person from a generic “Catholic” in 2013; a time when, if you observe reality for what it is, not even the Pope gives a damn for orthodoxy.

I doubt Francis is any better than Barron. I truly do. I think the main difference between the two is that Francis is Pope and Barron isn’t, so the former can only clearly hint at what the second feels free to openly state.

The fact is that the Barrons of the world have created a fertile ground for Francis, but Francis’ Papacy in turn creates the conditions for many little Bergoglios (let’s call them the Bergoglini) to go on with their work of destruction undisturbed. Give Francis ten years (Lord: please, please not!) and you will see an astonishing number of Barrons around.

Wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat. It seems to me Francis’ and Barron’s way leadeth straight to the wall; or much, much worse.

Mundabor

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Posted on October 12, 2013, in Bad Shepherds, Catholicism, Conservative Catholicism, Dissent, Traditional Catholicism and tagged , . Bookmark the permalink. 14 Comments.

  1. If, according to the clergymen, there is no Hell, then what happens to the Fallen Angels? Or do the Fallen Angels simply not exist?

  2. The concept of fallen angels would be probably too politically incorrect for modernists and Bergoglini, maybe they would prefer to call them “socially wounded angels” (Francis once refered sodomites as socially wounded people.. ) Maybe in Bergoglianism the Hell will be compared to a favela: a place unfairly held in contempt by elistist angels from Heaven.

  3. As a child attending a Catholic school I was left in no doubt about the existence of hell and demons. Who can contemplate Our Blessed Mother’s first revelation at Fatima without a deep, yet very healthy fear?

    Our Lady, in her love, referred to the “souls of poor sinners” going to hell. Just as the children who witnessed this vision, we too have the promise of salvation.

    As the Angel taught, let us say this prayer: “My God, I believe, I adore, I hope, and I love you. I ask pardon for those who do not believe, do not adore, do not hope and do not love you.”

  4. Awhile back Father Barron did a video about hell and said he didn’t think anyone went there. I asked him how that could be as Jesus talked about hell several times. Fr. Barron replied that he believed there was a hell; he just didn’t think anyone went there because God’s mercy is infinite. I stopped reading him after that.

  5. “O my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell, and lead all souls to Heaven, especially those in most need of Thy mercy.” (Fatima Rosary)
    Why would our Lady have us pray for something which is completely hopeless? We may fear that many souls go to hell, but we may hope that this isn’t the case. Otherwise, Mary wouldn’t have us pray such words.

    • That, and the fact that 2000 years of Christianity can’t be forgotten because it’s not comfortable for modern audiences to hear.

      M

    • Dear Mundabor,
      actually, I meant that our lady – through her prayer – is also suggesting that the hope hell is empty may not be vain. Otherwise, she wouldn’t have us pray for just that – an empty hell.

    • Ahhh ;)

      but actually an acute case of Jesuitism could also say that as we pray – as Mary and Our Lord know we will – then hell can be void thanks to our prayers…

      M

  6. I stopped reading Fr. Barron too. He cites a quote by Origen, who is not even a saint because of doctrinal lapses, and holds it to be proof above what is confessed by our Lord, every Council, and every pope(except for perhaps this one), and every doctor of the Church.

    If there is no hell then God is not infinitely Just. And man does not have true freedom of will to reject God. It amazes me how spiritually, theologically, and intellectually unsatisfying the position is, yet people still cling to it.

    • “If there is no hell then God is not infinitely Just”

      Well said, and this is the kind of basic Christian knowledge a priest is expected to know, and has no excuse if he doesn’t.

      M

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