Francis: Pick Your Flavour

Chocolate Francis, 12 February 2014:

“If you do not feel in need of God’s mercy, if you do not feel you are a sinner, then it’s better not go to Mass, because we go to Mass because we are sinners and we want to receive the forgiveness of Jesus, to participate in His redemption, His forgiveness.”

Vanilla Francis, 5 February 2014:

It’s so important to go to Mass every Sunday because that’s where people receive Christ who saves, forgives and unites everyone to his father, church and each other, Pope Francis said.

This man is bewildering, disconcerting, positively disquieting. 

The first statement is from yesterday. I have initially read it as a rhetorical matter: “if you weren’t in need of mercy you would not need to go to Mass”; a bit like saying “if you were an angel you would not need to go to confession” – but you are a human, so you do.  I have now serious doubts this is how it was meant.

A correction from the usual Lombardi will probably come post-haste. Still, the man has managed to confuse the faithful and send the “right message” to the “wrong people” once again.

Oh well. We have probably all misunderstood him, then; for the 1234th time in this pontificate.

The second statement is saltless in that he does not say that there is something as Mass obligation (in the favela there seems to be no obligations apart from the ones of smelling like the sheep and following one’s conscience), but at least it stresses the importance of mass attendance, and does not invite – or seems to invite; or can easily be read as to invite – to skip mass because one is so good he has no need for it.

I never knew we go to Mass to be “united to each other”, too, as this sounds a bit too “Woodstock” to my ears. The SSPX says it this way:

  1. the Mass is a true sacrifice, that is offered to God alone;
  2. this sacrifice is offered for the praise and adoration of God in three Persons as thanksgiving, impetration, and above all as propitiation for our daily sins;
  3. Christ offers Himself to His heavenly Father under the appearances of bread and wine;
  4. He, as High Priest of the New Covenant, accomplishes this Sacrifice through human priests and by means of the services of the Church.

I’d say the SSPX hits the bull’s eye, Francis seems to think more in terms of some strange emotional love-in of the community of “each other”. One understands whence the Pinocchio Mass and the Tango Mass come. 

Again, at least he stressed the importance of Mass attendance and managed to say the right thing, albeit in the usual V II way .

But that was last week, and this is this week. New week, new world. Pick your flavour.  

At times, when I read what this man says, I have the distinct impression that Satan is laughing.

Mundabor

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Posted on February 13, 2014, in Catholicism, Conservative Catholicism, Traditional Catholicism and tagged , . Bookmark the permalink. 15 Comments.

  1. Vanilla Francis ist wrong, too. Because we don’t go to mass to receive Christ in the first place. We have to go to mass although, if we are not able to receive Christ!

    • Yes, but Vanilla Francis says “that’s where people receive Christ”; he does not say that all the people at mass receive Christ, or that Mass only makes sense if one receives.
      M

  2. Making an orthodox statement here, a questionable statement there… Pope St. Pius X warned us about this in Pascendi Dominici Gregis.

  3. You are far kinder in your words than what I wrote. I would also say we can look at the dogmas that the Church upheld up until recently:

    -The Holy Mass is a true and proper Sacrifice.
    -In the Sacrifice of the Mass, Christ’s Sacrifice on the Cross is made present, its memory celebrated, and its saving power applied.
    -In the Sacrifice of the Mass and in the Sacrifice of the Cross the Sacrificial Gift and the Primary Sacrificing Priest are identical; only the nature and the mode of the offering are different.
    -The Sacrifice of the Mass is not merely a sacrifice of praise and thanks-giving, but also a sacrifice of expiation and impetration.

  4. I think the chocolate Francis needs to be read through his Scalfari interview, where bishop of Rome’s confidant confirmed that Francis did away with sin altogether.

  5. Well, when basically everything that comes out of the man’s mouth has to be explained a day or two later, as to what he actually meant, we can come to two simple conclusions: either a) the man is simply very stupid and doesn’t know what he’s saying or b) the man knowingly says exactly what he means even though a lot of it spits in the face of Catholicism, and his handlers feel the need to try and cover it up.

    Im pretty much sold on the latter explanation.

  6. Hmmm … Pope Francis says: “When we celebrate the Mass, we don’t accomplish a representation of the Last Supper: no, it is not a representation. It is something else: it is the Last Supper itself.” http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2014/02/10/pope_francis:_rediscover_a_sense_of_the_sacred/en1-771852

    Baltimore Catechism says: “Q. What is the Mass? A. The Mass is the unbloody sacrifice of the body and blood of Christ.”

  7. Ubi Maria, ibi Ecclesia

    In reading your post I was reminded of this post from Harvesting the Fruit of Vatican II:
    Re: “The sacred ground of humanity”

    The Church will have to initiate everyone – priests, religious and laity – into this “art of accompaniment” which teaches us to remove our sandals before the sacred ground of the other (cf. Ex 3:5). – Evangelii Gaudium – 169

    http://www.harvestingthefruit.com/the-sacred-ground-of-humanity/

    • I’ve lost you here.
      I thought the “sacred ground of the other” is, say, a Mosque, and we are supposed to remove the shoes if we want to visit?
      He doesn’t mean idolatry of others, for sure?
      Isn’t it?

      ….

      AaaaaaarrrRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!

      M

  8. I’ve just found your excellent blog, Mr. Mundabor, and I’ve been reading the archives. Excellent work! Now, for the praise to be mixed with some nitpicking, I’ve seen you use the word “favela” a lot in relation to something or other that Pope Francis has said. “Favela” is a Portuguese word, used in Brazil, and Jorge Bergoglio is an Argentine. The word you’re looking for is “villa miseria” – Argentines usually say just “villa”, but that might be confusing to English speakers.

    • Ah, thanks!

      I come from Italy, you see, where favela is a much-used word for “slum”, which is actually very little used. The proper Italian would be, for example, “baraccopoli”, but it’s little used nowadays, particularly after such things have factually disappeared from the Italian reality.

      OTOH, “Villa” in Italian is a beautiful house, or a stately home (as in: Villa d’Este, Villa Torlonia, Villa Sciarra, Villa Borghese…) and it would therefore go against my linguistic grain to use it in the Spanish sense.

      M

  9. If I work hard, I can wring an orthodox meaning out of the “chocolate” quote. That would be, “We’re all sinners. If you feel you’re not a sinner and don’t need forgiveness, well, you’re wrong. So don’t make things worse by taking communion when you’re in such a sinful, unworthy state. That will just add another sin to your account.” (This presumes that Francis thinks that “going to mass” equals “taking communion”, which they don’t, but since VII it’s become pretty well standard to take communion no matter what.)

    If that’s what he means, then I don’t disagree. But what a cowardly way of admonishing people! Note that he never comes right out and says “You’re wrong and are committing a terrible sin.” He sugarcoats it by reducing it all to a matter of one’s “feelings”, as if “going to mass” should depend on whether we’re in the mood or not. And can we then rely on him to support the necessary, opposite side of this matter? After all, there are priests involved in this business too; if they determine that a person is not in a fit state to take communion, will Francis support them if they refuse to administer it? Somehow, I doubt it. Nothing so nasty as outright telling a person they’re failing in some way in the Church of Nice. It’s all to be left to our all-powerful “feelings”, which can surely never steer us wrong, eh, no?

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