Incendiary Talk

The... Summorum Pontificum corridor...



After the latest alleged remarks of the Bishop of Rome to his Czech bishops concerning the latest fad of the young people – a Mass that has been in existence pretty much for the entire history of the Church – the observation was made that this remark does not change anything in Summorum Pontificum, and if and when Francis wants to abrogate it he will be able to do so in the open.

Very, very true.

True, in fact, in the same way in which Hitler's incendiary propaganda concerning Danzig did not change anything in the situation on the ground; or in which when you have the Wehrmacht, the Luftwaffe and even the Kriegsmarine at your disposal you can, without the shadow of a doubt, invade Poland any day you like.

The issue with most of what Francis says is not whether it introduces legal changes; he mostly doesn't. In fact, as far as I know even almost one year after his unprecedented Maundy Thursday Mass liturgical abuse he has not changed the canon law dispositions governing it. The huge issue with Francis is the mentality this endless string of off the cuff comments, liturgical abuses, beach balls on the altar, and general “who am I to judge” senselessness clearly indicate: a Pope managing the feat of being in almost complete disagreement with almost all his predecessors almost all of the times, and showing the understanding of Catholicism of a poorly instructed 15 years old boy in a hormone-induced delirium of omnipotence and world-changing zeal.

Exactly in the same way as the problem with Hitler was, in the first place, Hitler, and was very evident from Hitler's way of thinking and talking, the problem with Francis is, in the first place, Francis, as seen in the countless examples of his thinking and talking.

Furthermore, with both of them (Hitler and Francis) the problem is not whether they can, but whether they should. Hitler's ability to invade Poland says exactly zero about the righteousness of such an event; therefore, to say “Hitler can invade Poland” (or “Francis can abrogate Summorum Pontificum”) is not relevant in this context. Yes, he can. And yes, it would be outright evil if he should do it. May I be worried that Hitler might, one day, invade Poland? He waited six and a half years, by the way, and if you want an equivalent of the Ruhr occupation, I think the occupation of the FFI will do admirably.

My impression is that, should Francis one day… invade Summorum Pontificum – which I do not think he will ever have the guts to do, choosing the Jesuit way instead – there will be many voices simply pointing out that… he can; as if this would change the evaluation about the merit of such a decision one bit.

This is, be the way, the same trick used with stupid voters all the time:” why worry about same sex marriage, it has not been voted yet”; promptly followed by “it is a done thing now and there's nothing to do, so stop clamouring about it”.

Francis is the Bishop of Rome. He can, so to speak, certainly invade Poland. He will, I think, very probably never do it.

But I will not wait for him to do so in order to be scandalised by his incendiary talk.

Mundabor

 

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Posted on February 18, 2014, in Catholicism, Conservative Catholicism, Traditional Catholicism and tagged , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 7 Comments.

  1. I think he actually will do it….and who will be there to question him? The SSPX is waffling back and forth as it is (many of the order want Fellay out), and the FSSP will do whatever they are told to do. I think the best thing that he can do is declare war against Tradition….at least this way we will know who really stands for the Truth and who just bends which ever way the wind is blowing. My opinion, and you may disagree, is that too many good men and women are straddling the fence, hoping for something that will never be under this man.

    • It might well be. But if he does, he would have to say adios to his image of popular pope, because the reaction would be ferocious and would be remember centuries after his death.
      I doubt this is what he wants.
      I think he wants to be popular first, second and tenth. I doubt he will do anything permanenetly damaging his monument to Francis The Humble.

      M

  2. Thanks akitaette

    I have read the torrential, and very weak, intervention of Michael Voris.

    I will be nice and say that I do not agree with one word.

    As I find the text, to paraphrase his expression, neo-con porn, I will not publish it.

    Very sad, but it is clear it would end up that way. I had stopped seeing any purpose in them some time ago, which is why I have not linked to them for a while.

    The entire thinking makes no sense: If criticising the pope is bad for the spiritual health of the faithful, then cardinals and bishops must not be criticised, either.

    Let me stop here.

    M

  3. Mundabor, you say “if he does, he would have to say adios to his image of popular pope, because the reaction would be ferocious”. Too true on the reaction, but keep in mind that this fury would be coming from the ideologues and the self-absorbed promethean neo-pelagians, those “addicted” to a “certain fashion”, and unconcerned with that sense of “community” so essential to salvation (nor having any understanding of the “infallibility of the faithful”); those renaissance princes and schismatics who clearly are beyond the pale and outside a reasonable person’s consideration.

    I think we could expect that the reaction within the corridors of power in the post-conciliar Vatican and a majority of the chanceries, in the parish liturgy committees, in the convents and universities, in the Catholic and secular press, among the good and the great – those that matter to Francis – the reaction would be very pleasing (Kung, Kaspar, Marx, Schonborn, Maradiaga, for a start, would be singing the man’s praises from the rooftops), and only increase Francis’ popularity in a world so happy to have this revolutionary in his seat of omnipotence.

    Who, other than that very small minority to which we ourselves belong, would complain? And who would listen? Would Rolling Stone cover it? Time? Gay news monthly? We’re on our own – in earthly terms – and if the Bishop of Rome wants to pull the pin FFI-style, he will.

    • Yes, I agree with that. The apparatus would agree no matter what. Maradiaga would be in cheguevarian ecstasy. But Francis’ monument would be damaged permanently.
      Yes, he criticises th epromethean neo pelagians etc., but notice he only goes after the easy targets like the FFI, or when he does not make any name; he doesn’t dare even touch the SSPX. He knows there is a price to pay.

      M

  4. “a Pope managing the feat of being in almost complete disagreement with almost all his predecessors almost all of the times, and showing the understanding of Catholicism of a poorly instructed 15 years old boy in a hormone-induced delirium of omnipotence and world-changing zeal”.

    The most complete summary of this disastrous papacy I have yet seen. It would have brought a wry smile once, but the time for that seems to have passed. Spot on, once again, Mundabor.

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