“Is There A Lesson Here?” Michael Voris On The Midterm Elections and US Catholics

Cleaning Up.

Here you’ll find Michael Voris’ take on the recent Mid-term elections. Apart from the very likeable, more directly political observations about Americans and Liberalism, I’d like to point out to some messages which I find extremely pertinent.

1) Voris maintains that Catholic churchgoers are, in their majority, Republicans. This is a very interesting assertion. I’d love to hear from US blog readers whether they agree with Voris’ take.

2) There is a link between the change that has occurred with the election and what is happening within the Church: liberals are kicked out whilst the conservative element irresistibly marches toward the restoration of sanity. I fully agree with this statement; it seems to me that the undercurrent is the same here, and that it does not limit itself to the Catholic world.

3) An additional bold statement is that Catholics in the pews get to vote about the restoration of orthodoxy. Not in the traditional, ballot-like way of course but in the more subtle, slower but rather effective way of choosing where to worship (and whose collection plate to frequent) or where to send the children to school. Such a practice would not be very successful in countries like Italy and Germany – where fund distribution is organised differently – but I can see it having much more bite in countries like the US, relying on private contributions for the upkeep of their religious personnel and structures.

4) Last important point to my eyes: the warning that the US hierarchy, still largely dominated by convenient cowardice about the Church teaching and the conversion of souls, must now choose whether to change course and embrace orthodoxy or be “swept away”. I fail to see where the sweeping would come from if the Pope continues to appoint half-liberal bishops to appease the local clerical communities; but there can be no doubt that what sweeping the Pope will not do, the demographics will in time do for him.

Enjoy the video!

Mundabor

Posted on November 6, 2010, in Catholicism and tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 8 Comments.

  1. My impression is that people who fulfill their Sunday obligation tend slightly toward voting Republican. I have seen a number of polls over the past ten years that bear out this fact.

    I also live in an area of the country that is tends toward being center-left. America is a big place, and political cultures vary widely across it, so Catholic Republicans may exist in larger majorities elsewhere.

    I should point out, though, that Catholics generally tend to follow the main swing of politics (whether to the right or to the left). While I think people should generally assimilate to the mores of their host country, Catholics in the US assimilated just a little bit *too* much. It is likely that many Catholic people did not let the doctrines of the Church intrude even a little into their votes last Tuesday. I have no doubt that many Catholics who voted enthusiastically for Obama in 2008 pulled the lever for Republican and Tea Party candidates on the 2nd.

    • I think you are both right, but wouldn’t say that Voris implies that the pulpits are orthodox; actually, he continuously complaints that they aren’t. I’d say that he has seen that the same trend is now working both in the Catholic world and in the country at large.

      I want to hope that as the bishops start to put the matter of abortion in a more aggressive way to their sheep, mistakes like the obamamania will become impossible. But I frankly think that time will necessary, perhaps 10-20 years.

      If Pope Benedict had been more aggressive in his appointments, I think the situation woul dbe better already.

      M

  2. Irenaeus of New York

    I would agree that most Catholics who attend mass are Republicans/Tea Party. But it is not by a wide majority. This is because not every pulpit is orthodox. If it were, many more would vote while being informed by Catholic moral teaching. I think Voris has some good points and I think he is accurate about the trends, but I think it is slower then we are led to believe. The Catholic vote did not shift because it all of the sudden became better informed or better catechised, rather it was that Obama and his administration have governed dreadfully, and it is finally evident to many more of the idiots who voted for him.

    The liberals/modernists are getting replaced in the church, but not at a pace that is fast enough. There will be a new wave of church closings before all is said and done.

  3. Both main parties are owned by the Jews so I think the whole process was meaningless. It’s arguable that the democrats are less compromised in so much as they have more constituencies to appease. Both parties represent more wars and bank bailouts. Too much is being read into this result and I wouldn’t bet against Obama in 2012 especially if Palin is chosen as GOP leader.

  4. I would simply add that it would be wishful thinking to believe that this election will offer any change. Recall, if you will, the 1994 Republican landslide and its famous “Contract with America.” They took office promising sweeping reforms and then did precisely nothing…rather, they made things considerably worse with regard to debt, immorality, USA hubris, the lot.

    It was under a Republican-controlled Congress that we were given lesbian/homo judges, officials, programs, etc. Not a single abortion was prevented because the Republicans, some of whom are generally and sincerely pro-life (as are, oddly enough, a number of Democrats) are too cowardly to act on that belief. The Republicans are only too willing to be stooges for Wall Street – and War Street – and are famous for cynically appealing to good-hearted people and then once in office stabbing them firmly in the back. And make no mistake whatever: they are as pro-poof as the Democrats. The new speaker of the House, John Boehner, while a basically decent man and very prolife in his speech, is, sadly and horribly, an inveterate war-monger on the one hand and on the other hand too frightened to really and truly challenge thepro-abortion forces. This is the sad, cold reality.

    What’s the solution? There isn’t one. At least politically-speaking. Mundabor is precisely correct when he states that were the Popes to begin selecting great men to be Bishops things would change. Which means that looking to politics for solutions is a waste of time. Strong, courageous, outspoken Catholicism is the one and only thing that could possibly help the benighted USA. And, as a citizen of that country, I can attest to the truth of that statement.

    • Schmenz,
      I do not expect this to be a revolution, rather a shift.

      But i do think that this time the situation is different than in 1994, because it seems to me that now the pro-life politicians will take more courage. They’ll count themselves and see that they can do an awful lot in many states. This shoul din turn encourage other people to become more assertive, both politicians and not.

      Still: I can’t avoid to think what, say, ten years of honest bishops’ work could do here, and in time a new generation would grow up and vote, of people who don’t know anything else than solid orthodoxy. The bishops are keys to this becomig huge. I hope they’ll wake up, if not right now at least gradually in the next years. But again, we need more conservative appointments, able to show the direction to everyone and to give courage to those who already are more conservatively minded.

      M

  5. America has some of the foundation stones in place for a second American Revolution. This might start when the ‘prods’ notice that their country is still in a mess despite the promises of their ‘pastors’. In this scenario, the wasps would rather turn to the gun than ‘faith and reason’ and given that these sects are a mix of ‘faith and the irrational’, once their faith goes, then trouble will surely start.

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