9/11, Ten Years later

Bin Screwed in a rare photo wearing a condom

As everyone, I remember that terrible afternoon of now ten years ago. I followed the events closely, and a sense of impotence and rage, as I had never experienced before, has remained with me to this day.

I remember that going to bed I reflected that the worst was to think that once again, there would be no adequate answer and the West would be content with the usual barking and meowing. A sense of decay, of twilight of a civilisation, was how I remember that terrible 11 September 2001.I was absolutely sure that the events would be repeated, that other aeroplanes would go down, if perhaps only every now and then; that we all would have to become accustomed to living with the fear of terror from the skies.

Ten years later, it turns out that I was wrong. Never could the terrorists repeat the actions of the 11 September but most importantly, the attempt to intimidate the West failed miserably as the untested Bush proved, by the grace of God, no Clinton. The reaction of the West came, though not with the speed that I would have wished, and by Christmas 2001 the Western bombs had already helped to take down the Taliban regime, and this alone would have been a message for all those hoping that the West could be cowed into submission by terrorist acts.

But the best was yet to come, with the attacks of 11 September opening the door for an entirely different ways to relate to our Arab, as the word goes, “friends”; in the new post 11 September world, playing stupid would not work anymore: ask Saddam Hussein, whose regime had survived sixteen UN resolutions but did not survive one terrorist attack and the new, no-bullshit world created by it.

But the best was yet to come. The establishment of slow, corrupt, infiltrated, utterly inefficient democracies was still something new and wonderful for most people in the Arab world. Slowly, this new world got them thinking. Once again, a President that the world loved to make fun of – for reasons unknown to me, as he has never been known only to open his mouth in the presence of a teleprompter; astonishingly it is the moron who does so whom people think intelligent – had seen everything right and had correctly understood that once the impenetrable Arab system would be unhinged by the planting of a democracy in its middle, it would be only a matter of time before the entire Arab world would start to understand that democracy is sexy, and it is fully OK to want a piece of it.

Like Reagan, Bush didn’t see his vision realised during his Presidency; but like Reagan, he still had the pleasure of seeing the fruits of his brilliant vision come to fruition shortly thereafter. Only eight years after Iraq’s invasion, it is clear that Iraq was, as we were told at the time among the liberal laughter, the pry used to unhinge the entire Arab world. The situation over there is certainly still fluid, but it will be very difficult to suffocate a once awakened desire for freedom; the courage of the people in Syria, continuing their extremely brave fight without even the hope of a Western military intervention, is a clear sign of what energies can be freed.

Ten years later, the perpetrator of the attacks lies at the bottom of the sea, the object of countless jokes; most of his nearest followers have met the same destiny; two Arab countries have been invaded, showing to the meanest intelligence who is boss, and what happens when the insects bite the giants; from these invasions – making, of course, concessions for the local situations – two democracies have been born, of which at least one seems destined to a somewhat stable future; from these two democracies, a desire for freedom has been engendered all over the Arab world, very possibly leading to the creation of another couple of stable democracies, perhaps more; and from these democracies, the inevitable consequence of parliamentary rule will follow: peace. Democracies don’t wage war against each other, and in a democracy it becomes extremely difficult to inflate anti-Israeli hate to keep people from thinking about the shit they find themselves in, in their own country.

Summa summarum: the old Al Qaeda front almost completely annihilated, never again able to repeat the feat of that day, and in general reduced to try to make bombs out of strange liquids. The Arab world massively and repeatedly humiliated, and two countries invaded outright. Two democracies born of it. Several other democracies on their way to be born because of those two. Israel very probably the biggest beneficiary in the region, particularly if the Syrian regime ends up crumbling. Air traffic undisturbed.

Ten years later, one stops and thinks of the ways of the Lord, and of how out of such evil who affected so many such a hope would be, in time, be born, affecting so many. The scale of the devastation within the US and the shock were unprecedented, but the scale of change in the following ten years has been much, much bigger.

Congratulations Osama, you dumb f*ck. In your own way, you helped achieve something really spectacular.

It was merely the exact contrary of what you wanted.

Mundabor

Posted on September 7, 2011, in Catholicism and tagged , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 14 Comments.

  1. I cant believe it has already been 10 years. I will never forget that day.

    I agree, the wisdom of putting a democracy in the Middle East is stirring the pot of revolution. It will hopefully be the undoing of the Islamic theocrats. A carnal religion that is so bent on satisfying a mans desires that it cannot survive without authoritarianism to subjegate opponents. The religion will implode when challenged in the plurality of a moral democracy. Even those islamists in Europe reject democracy and want sharia because they simply cant assimilate. So while they are making europe rot because she rejects her own Christian roots, many are also leaving Islam. Better to put the democracy in the islamists own backyard.

    I would also add, that the fall of Quadaffi was more important for the fate of Europe than most people know. He was investing millions promoting the relocation of Muslims to Europe in hopes of balkanizing the continent with their refusal to assimilate and high birth rates. He spoke about this openly many times. What is concerning though is the change in western democracies. Once moral, they are promoting excesses of all kinds at the expense of our future stability. Integrity in politics is a rare thing today. I shudder to think of the next generation taking the reins of govt. The current generation is already morally bankrupt. How much worse will their sons and daughters be…

  2. Mundabor, I wish I cold share your enthusiasm for the new ‘democracies’ in the Muslim world, but, alas, I can’t. As long as Islam is entrenched in the hearts of the Middle-Eastern people, any democracy is doomed to failure. The only way to deal with all the problems in the Middle East is to wipe out Islam at it’s very heart. Destroy, raze to the ground, Medina, Mecca, and Riyadh. Only by wiping out these cities can we break the deathgrip that islam has over it’s dupes.

    • I wonder whether islam is really so entrenched, Stephen.

      Only twenty years ago you didn’t see veiled women much, and it would appear that both in Afghanistan and Iraq people can cope rather well with democratic institution, which are as un-Islamic as it goes. The same applies, in my eyes, to Egypt, Lybia, Syria, & Co.

      On a more anecdotal plane, the Muslim I have known here in the UK seem to care about Islam much less than the natives care about Christianity; the mosque attendance statistics also corroborate this impression at least for the UK.

      M

  3. Osama Bin Laden’s offical song since his passing: Under The Sea! lol!

  4. Interesting reflectons, Irenaeus…

    we live ina world where there is mass rioting and you hear every day people saying that the culprits are to be looked everywhere else than among the rioters…

    What kind of generation will be born of such thinking is anyone’s guess…..

    M

  5. Yes, Osama did achieve something spectacular: he has helped usher in a Police State in America.

    I trust that all of you who are dancing on his grave (which dancers include the creeps in government who are ushering in the tyranny) are cognizant of this fact.

  6. Ummm…Mundabor, Islam is more than just a religion. It is more of an ideology which has got mixed up with a whole lot of misplaced Arab/ underdog nationalism. To say, the war on terror has ushered in Democracy may be factually true but in essence, I doubt it will really curb the militant Islamic ideology which raised the Taliban in the first place. Most of the corrupt regimes (including Saddam’s) were pro-dictator, but surprisingly, not fundamentalist. Iraq had an enviable family law which outlawed the vile practice of honour killing. This law was overturned under the current democratic process in Iraq. Mubarak’s regime had the rabid Muslim Brotherhood on tight lease. Now, there is a danger that this very same organisation, which is seeking usher in an Islamic rule and was responsible for inciting violence against the Egyptian Christian minorities might gain power in the forthcoming elections…

    I hate to say this, but this has an uncanny semblance to Hitler’s rise to power. Democracy enabled it…

    • Remediaf,

      I certainly do not think that Arab democracy will cause the end of militant Islamism. But I really don’t care. The way to deal with them is to kill them, and make them so weak that they are not a threat anymore. Exactly the strategy pursued by the West in these last ten years; with, I must say, wonderful results so far.

      Religion is the most powerful engine of human actions. If a religion lends itself to acts of fanaticism, you might never be able to eradicate it. The challenge – and the solution – is to neutralise it at a practical level.

      Perfectly feasible, in Egypt as everywhere else. In the end, most people don’t want to die and that’s that.

      M

  7. M,

    The only way to weaken an ideology is to introduce another parallel ideology. History shows that in the West, it was the advent of communism and subsequent consumerism which watered down Christianity which strengthened European unity.

    But in the Middle-East and other Muslim countries, killing them will only fuel the fire. Sure, there hasn’t been another 9/11 since, but renegade sleeper groups have multiplied, one-man terrorists are constantly testing the fences. If at all, the terror is now inborn in West. It’s no longer triggered from Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia etc…

    I wish we could confidently say that force could truly deter the minority fundamentalists…but the promise of so-called ‘martyrdom’, following which they get to have sex with 60 virgins in heaven (yikes!) is enough a bait for them to blow themselves and a whole lot of innocents up.

    • Remediaf,
      I really couldn’t disagree more..

      The idea that the force can’t deter fundamentalists is what has given us 9/11 in the first place, and only too late the West woke up and discovered that it must work Reagan-like: we win, they die.

      Ten years later, they are the phantom of their former selves, when we tried to appease them.

      Weapons work. They actually take people out. It is illusion to think that the Musoim world dispose of a potentially unlimited reserve of people ready to die. They really don’t, as these ten years have proved.

      And those few who are ready to die, actually do.

      M

      M

  8. Suggest you take a peek at http://www.mercatornet.com/articles/view/the_challenge_of_9_11

    Gives a different perspective of the war and its outcome (and one that I agree)…

    • I have perused the article, that I have found a collage of common place and apocalyptic prophecies of doom.

      You don’t need Vico to discover that corruption generates decay and fall of the Empire, this is a lesson every European child has learned at school in these last two thousand years. Similarly, the idea that a bunch of islamists have been an important factor in the collapse of the Soviet Union is way exaggerated.

      But even in Afghanistan, we see the difference between Russians and Western world. Whilst I can’t say that everything is fine by us, I can easily predict that even Italian soldiers would break the backs of the Islamists.

      The great stupidity of Al Kaida was to believe that the West was weak. It isn’t. Not in the least. The Japanese have made the same mistake before them.

      M

  9. Dear Mundabor:

    I was recently counting the times in the past when I have been wrong on important issues, be they religious, political or whatnot, and began anew to feel gratitude to those who opened my eyes, who showed me I was on the wrong path or had been, simply, lied to by peole with a vested interest in hiding the truth. With these reflections in mind I must ask you to put aside your clearl pro-Israel bias for the moment (but only for the moment) and try, sincerely, to see the other side of the story. As a Catholic, you can do no less.

    I will begin by linking you to the words of the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem: http://www.americancatholic.org/Messenger/Feb2002/feature2.asp

    Secondly I will point out to you that merely killing people is going to cause untold misery and prolong injustice, especially in the realm of Middle East politics. Like you, I was a fanatically pro-Israel partisan, defending them against any and all accusations, always looking at the other side as the enemy, always fawning over the USA as if it were the great arbiter of justice in the world. Do you want to know something? It took several quiet and calm discussions with a Catholic monk of Lebanese origin to show me that other side. What we pro-Israel people failed to see were the causes of the turmoil; we failed to see who it was who created the problem.

    Mundabor, Saint Pius X met with the father of Zionism, Herzl, who tried to persuade this great Pope to back his dream of a Holy Land ruled by the Jews and the expulsion of the people who had lived there for 5,000 years. St Pius was appalled and told him, diplomatically, to go to hell, that the Church could never sanction such an outrage, that outrage being the establishment of a nation based upon the complete rejection of Jesus Christ and one that would be committing the crimes it has since been committing against the innocent. (Sadly, this sensible policy of neutrality was destroyed by Paul VI and John Paul II). I knew none of this when I was an Israel Firster. But I learned and, you know, there is no shame in admitting I was wrong.

    Just the other day the famous Italian/American singing star Tony Bennett said in an interview that “they flew the plabes into the twin towers, but we [the US] caused it.” That is the simple truth. Our meddling in the Middle East, our completely one-sided, non-neutral stance in the Palestine situation is making us the most hated nation in the world. We are aiding and abetting injustice. Retaliation, or “blowback”, was bound to hit us eventually. Dear Mundabor, if you really and truly want to see the other side of the story, you might log on to “Israel and Palestine: the Missing Headlines”, a useful website.

    And as I must remind everyone once again: Christians, Muslims and Jews lived in relative peace with one another in the Holy Land for CENTURIES. Please reflect upon that demonstrable historical fact. What changed all that was the culmination of Herzl’s dream, in 1948, when the Zionist Jews of New York, Eastern Europe, Russia and elsewhere suddenly converged on Palestine and brutally took over (stole) the land from its rightful owners – with thecomplete financial, moral and military support of the USA – and illegally, against all international law, created their Jewish state. Even the indigenous Jews there were appalled by this and fought this lunacy. The entire world condemned it; Pius XII condemned it. Indeed it was Pius XII’s condemnation of this, along with his doubting some of the more fanciful tales of Nazi persecution, that have earned him the hatred of the Zionists ever since.

    Dear Mundabor, fellow-Cathaolic and (I hope) friend, please try to see that there is another side to this whole story. Try to see that when you stick your hand into a hornet’s nest (the Sikes -Picot Agreement, the Balfour Declaration, blind US support for Israeli crimes,etc.) you will get stung. Don’t merely demand that the hornets be killed. Try to find out first why they are mad and stinging you.

    • Thanks Schmenz,

      but by reading the link I couldn;t find anythign else than the usual senseless crap about the “good oppressed palestinian”. If Italy had tried to kick out the French from France, or the Germans from Germany, there wouldn’t be Italian sin Italy anymore.

      The Palestinians must thank God that they have to do with the Israelis, people so good that they even forbid their own people to even TALK about the only solution of the conflict: kick all the Palestinians out of Palestine for good.

      And I didn’t mention that Palestinians have access to better tribunals and human rights protection under their “oppressors” than they would have in any other Arab state you cared to mention. And I didn’t even mention that the Arab brothers, who have 7 million square km, don’t do anything to help them but rather prefer to keep them as an excuse to try to keep the arab world united. Which is what the Palestinians deserve, because I do not know any other supposed nation as stupid as they are.

      When you wage wars to kick your enemy out and lose (many times, not one) don’t be surprised if the enemy is not kind to you. This is good so, then otherwise people would feel free to wage extermination wars at no cost; which is pretty much what the Palestinians think they can do.

      Your kind of naivete is what gave us 9/11 in the first place.

      M

      P.s. BTW, St Pius X lived before the holocaust, and before the Arabs (not the Israelis) didn’t accept the UNO plan in 1948 and waged war to kick the Israelis out.

      I can’t say to you that I would have been in favour of a Jewish state before the Holocaust (probably yes).
      I must say that I certainly am in favour now.

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