Explaining Kreuz.Net

Kreuz.net call him “Homoporn-Cardinal”: Christoph Schoenborn.

Those among my readers who do not read German will probably not know Kreuz.net, though I dare to think most of those who speak German do.

Kreuz.net is a very conservative, ferociously Anti-V II anonymous Internet site. If you think I express myself in a too aggressive way, you are well advised never to visit them as compared to them my blog is harmless mainstream Catholic fare. You read the blog with its  vitriolic comments and could be forgiven for thinking you have landed on some micro-site of extremely angry extremists with a micro-following of extremely angry readers.

Big mistake.

Kreuz.net, which in the past posted articles from excellent priests above all suspicion like Reto Nay ( Nay is the excellent “engine” behind Gloria TV, which is multilingual like himself; I have linked to the site more than a couple of times), is well-known for being not only extremely abrasive but also rather well-informed; besides, it appears to have a vast following and – particularly for a website written in German –  a rather stellar Alexa ranking.

Now we must ask ourselves: how can it be that a Catholic site expressing itself in shockingly aggressive manner, and in the sights of the German prosecutors attract such a vast number of followers? The answers are, in my eyes, interesting because they concern the Catholic world at large. I personally see them as follows:

1. They are competent. They would put every head of the CDF (the present one, and a couple of the past ones) to shame. During the recent “Mary-Not-Truly-Ever-Virgin” scandal they completely ridiculed Archbishop Mueller. At least from what I have read up to now, they appear utterly sound.

2. They “talk turkey”. No diplomatic waffle, and no veiled accusations. The accusations are open, and you are left in no doubt as to what is wrong with those they criticise. They also do not suffer of the disease – well spread in the Anglo Saxon world – by contracting which the Pope becomes magically free of all guilt whilst all those around him wreak havoc.

3. They are angry. In doing so, they certainly resonate with the many Germans or German-speaking readers who have the pockets full of the cowardly and – alas – theologically compromised post-V II Church. They have the more right to be angry, as the Church in German-speaking countries cannot be beaten in point of overt or covert heresy. If I lived in Germany, I think I would consider them as a good way to try to avoid a liver cancer.

Yes, their language is very harsh. Yes, their content can be considered questionable at times (though, apparently, only for hyper-sensitive German prosecutors; no problems with the hosting in the USA at all). Yes, I wouldn’t endorse everything they write (by far not). But you see, their success can safely be seen as the result of the state of complete abandonment true German-speaking Catholics must feel, as they experience that the charge toward heresy is led by their  own  bishops and cardinals whilst the German Pope does … er, well, nothing.

I can assure you the times I did not write on my blog about documented topics I read about on kreuz.net are more than I care to admit; and I did it because to comment on my blog on all the scandals and heresies they continuously expose would gravely endanger my health and, probably, yours too.

This is how an internet site obtains not only a vast readership, but even the attention of the professional faggots of the German political world  like Volker Beck (a Green cretin who has built his career on his homosexuality; think Peter Tatchell with added bitching, and non-stop whining).

German-speaking Catholics just have the pockets full. They are going to visit those sites which tell things straight, and expose the ludicrous state the Church has reduced herself in German-Speaking countries. It is no surprise unimpeachable Catholic blogs like Catholic Church Conservation and The Eponymous Flower follow them and, at times, even translate their articles (something for which yours truly will, alas, never have the patience).

The German church is in such a state that the gloves will not do anymore and only bare knuckles will do.

Kreuz.net does it very crudely, but on the whole rather well. Kudos to them, and who cares if the German PC-police and institutionalised faggotry disagree.


Posted on August 4, 2012, in Catholicism. Bookmark the permalink. 5 Comments.

  1. I can read enough German to be able to understand what I read fairly well, as long as I have a dictionary. I did not know about this site. I have tried to find German language theological discussion boards and have not succeeded, so I appreciate your exposing this.

    It’s strange that German censors would be so captive to the political-correctness inquisition, which seems so typically American, following the puritan millenarian tradition that manifested itself in abolitionism, the women’s suffrage movement, the temperance movement, and now the push for homosexual “rights”. As an American teenager visiting Germany, I was shocked by the German willingness to say what one means instead of being polite. Reading older Lutheran theology in German, you see the same tendency, in stark contrast with the American reticence to offend or deal directly with unpleasant reality, such as death, hell, self-deception, and sin.

    • As I see it, Germans are as much PC as the Americans; merely, they do so in other directions, generally to do with the Vergangenheit (which means in plain words: Nazism).

      To deny the Holocaust is in itself a criminal offence. The Hitlergruss is, AFAIK, also a criminal offence. When I lived there, you were not allowed to have a copy of Mein Kampf at home unless for reasons of “study”. The selling of Nazi songs was not allowed. They also have strange criminal offences, like Volksverhetzung.

      Let us compare with Italy. Your freedom of opinion obviously protects your right to deny the Holocaust till the cows come home at the mere price of ridicule; the Hitlergruss (we call it “Roman Salute” for obvious reasons) is used every day in jest without anyone (sensible) taking offence; you can buy Mein Kampf in every mainstream bookstore (I did; terrible reading by the way) and the vendor will not even look at you in a strange way; everyone is perfectly allowed to belong to a Nazi organisation, which is merely forbidden from participating in elections (but is allowed to campaign that it may be allowed to do so). The criminal offence of “ricostituzione del disciolto Partito Fascista” (still in place in my time; no idea what happens now) refers, again, merely to the political party.
      If Volksverhetzung were a criminal offence in Italy, half the population would be in jail.

      Therefore, you explain to an Italian what is all forbidden in Germany, and he will wonder if this can still be called a democracy. “Ah, but this is because of the Vergangenheit“, the Germans will tirelessly repeat to you. Stop being obsessed with the past and learn a bit of democracy, is my take.

      If you follow the long wikipedia entry (in German) I have linked to, you will see that kreuz.net attracted the attention of the authorities for reasons linked to…. the Vergangenheit. In the US, no problems at all.

      As to the “American reticence to offend”, I agree with you, but my comment is from the perspective of a Southern-European, where the entire concept of “I am hurt so you must apologise to me” is completely unknown.

      As to death, hell, and sin, I think you will find contemporary Germans are rather different from their Luteran forefathers, though I agree they are in these matters less PC than the ever-cautious Americans.


    • My 7th grade teacher pulled me out in the hallway because I “siegheiled” the American flag during the pledge of allegiance. I told her that it was a salute of respect and that this is how the pledge of allegiance was said prior to WW2. She asked if I would like to be kicked in the balls since in some countries that is also a sign of respect. Unfortunately teachers never get to say things like that anymore in public schools.

      Germans were blunt when I visited. The strange thing is that in the midwest, where people are most loathe to offend, most of the people are descended from Germans. I wonder where the terminal niceness came from.

      Chicago is full of catholics, by the way, but the nearest latin mass to me–I live an hour outside of Chicago–is in the city. There are two catholic colleges nearby and neither of them even offers latin language courses. It’s tragic.

    • I’d have asked her which countries kick in the balls as a sign of respect, just out of curiosity…

      Again, I think a German can be blunt to an American, and very weak to an Italian (or Spaniard, or Portuguese).. 😉

      I think you’ll find those you call Catholics in Chicago are mostly such in name only. In fact, I think the “terminal niceness” you beautifully mention is a direct result of the loss of faith. When truth becomes dimly perceived, other priorities (like “niceness”) take its place. This “Christianity by hearsay” then produces the “do not judge” mantra, the compulsory apologies at every passive-aggressive remark made to one, and the general downgrading of commandement to “better choices” as opposed to the “sub-optimal” choices, which everyone “respects” anyway.

      Those “modern” Christians would never be recognised as such by, say, my grandmothers. ‘Nuff said…


  2. I love kreuz.net for its sense of humor almost as much as I love it for its unapologetic hatred for all of the things which are now poisoning the West.

    I think part of the reason for the fact that they’re the largest Catholic site in Europe has to do with the oppressive nature of post-War Germany where people’s livelihoods and reputations can be destroyed for the most childish reasons.

    Also, the volkerverhetzung laws are very seldom ruled in favor of Catholics, because as kreuz.net frequently points out, the “Kulturkampf”, begun in earnest by Frederick the Great and continued by Bismarck in the 19th century, has not ceased to this day.

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