Clear Thinking And Useless Waffle.

Pope Pius XII, 1943.

Actually only those are to be included as members of the Church who have been baptized and profess the true faith, and who have not been so unfortunate as to separate themselves from the unity of the Body, or been excluded by legitimate authority for grave faults committed.


Pope Francis, 2013.

“The Lord created us in His image and likeness, and we are the image of the Lord, and He does good and all of us have this commandment at heart, do good and do not do evil. All of us. ‘But, Father, this is not Catholic! He cannot do good.’ Yes, he can… “The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ, all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone!” We must meet one another doing good. ‘But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!’ But do good: we will meet one another there.”

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Posted on June 15, 2013, in Catholicism, Conservative Catholicism, Traditional Catholicism and tagged , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 10 Comments.

  1. What is this being promoted? Works without Faith?

  2. Good Lord, he sounds like a Unitarian-Universalist! Whatsa Mater You?!

    • I am sure he is very popular among Unitarians.

      Those who don’t care for Catholic orthodoxy all seem to like this Pope very much.


  3. The second statement seems to border on heresy.

    • I’d say the second statement is very much V II.

      It could be read in an orthodox way if you make a big effort of interpretation (we “meet” on the ground that “it is good to do good”), and it is heretical if it read as everyone else will read it.


  4. radjalemagnifique

    NEW : Clown Masses in France !

    You feel down ? Need to change your mind ? Come to a Clown Mass in France ! It’s motto : « Happiness, oh yes ! » The clown, named « Papi », is a Salesian priest. You see, you already feel much better.

    Radja le Magnifique

  5. radjalemagnifique

    The Great Entertainment

    After the Pinocchio Mass in Argentine, the Clown Mass in France, here comes the Movie Mass in Germany : First Communion Blessing with « Star Wars » saber !

    More future popes on the waiting list …

    Radja le Magnifique

    P. S. There is not only the homosexual problem in the Church, there is also the liturgical one. Both sexuality and liturgy have become completely crazy. No pope, as strong as he might be, can overcome the almost entirely rotten field of the modern Church. Only a supernatural intervention can bring sound Tradition back. That’s at least my analysis though I don’t think that Mundabor will agree with me …

    • Oh, I agree that thinks will be repaired only when a supernatural intervention comes (see my posts on Our Lady of Quito); but the supernatural intervention will be necessary not because it is impossible to act only from human strenght, but because those who should do not want to.


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