The Wrong Kind Of Joke.
And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
From the Disgrace-in-Chief’s interview to Il Messaggero (another left-leaning newspaper, if you want to know): the first Q&A is reported only to give the context. Please focus on the second Q&A. Emphasis mine.
M: You speak, perhaps, little about women, and when you speak about them you take on on issue only from the point of view of motherhood, woman as spouse, woman as mother, etc. But women by now are heads of state, multinationals, armies. What posts can women hold in the Church, according to you?
Francis: Women are the most beautiful things that God created. The Church is woman. Church is a feminine word [in Italian]. One cannot do theology without this femininity. You are right that we don’t talk about this enough. I agree that there must be more work on the theology of women. I have said that we are working in this sense.
M: Isn’t there a certain misogyny at the base of this?
Francis: The fact is that woman was taken from a rib … (he laughs strongly). I’m kidding, that’s a joke. I agree that the question of women must be explored more deeply, otherwise one cannot understand the Church herself.
What on earth is this?
1) What is the joke? Is he joking about his provocative (but truthful) answer to the woman, or is he saying that the word of the Lord is a joke?
If it’s the first, it smells of great cowardice not to explain things to the end, and make clear a couple of things about the God-given order of the Universe, and the equality of dignity in the diversity of the roles (look, I am quoting a V II Pope here).
The problem is, Francis says it in a way that will induce many to believe that he thinks the Genesis account is a joke . This is so like Francis, I am not surprised.
2) So, the Church has not understood itself for 2000 years? And will not be able to do it unless and until she “explores more deeply” the “question of women”? Why does this man think that there be any “unexplored question” concerning women? Did the Blessed Virgin feel she did not know enough? What about the great female saints, and the countless saintly women who have lived a life fully deprived of “deeper exploration” these 2000 years?
Can’t you see that Francis is once again selling the Church to the enemy with honeyed and suggestive words implying that the Church of Christ has some homework to do to satisfy some, well, unsatisfied feminist?
Let me stop here. I feel the adrenaline level rising already.
Posted on June 29, 2014, in Catholicism, Conservative Catholicism, Traditional Catholicism and tagged Bible, Feminists, Pope Francis. Bookmark the permalink. 8 Comments.
*shakes head* I’m right with you Mundy. Our lost Pope is afraid to admit the truth about the role of women b/c it will set off a hurricane of ire in the feminazied world we live in. Sadly even Catholic women have bought the lie of our role as “leaders” and that we can do anything a man can do. *shakes head again* We women haven’t been taught our proper roles since the vacuum of the Church has forced us to listen to the world instead. Women are NOT to lead in society. Yup, I said it. There should be no women as senators, heads of corporations etc. Women are given the role to nurture, form and support children and the males in their lives. Period. Read the Proverbs 31 woman…she sold and bought land, ran a business from her home, tended to her husband and children…but it was always under the leadership of a man. Service and sacrifice are the highest forms of love…and both men and women are called to it…some in the realm of the home, others in society. But men are born to lead…women to follow. And that’s absolutely fine by me:+) For if a man truly leads, sacrifices for his family and society then a woman is the most blessed of all creatures…which reflects the Blessedness of the woman who is the Queen of Heaven and example for all women to follow. I think it would be interesting to investigate the impact of women being able to vote on our society. Since that decision the whole world has practically crumbled. When we mess with God’s design, all he** breaks lose…and I wonder if women voting started it off? Just wondering:+) God bless you Mundy:+)
Spoken like a true woman.
Mind, I do admit that in certain circumstances women may have to lead, and men have joyfully followed the lead of women when they saw the sense and logic of that. Joan of Arc comes to mind, or the Good Queen Mary. But this continuous desire of making of women men is just another piece in the mad perverted puzzle game of our time. A madness, as it is evident to everyone who has eyes to see, which makes women suffer first and foremost, as they pay their feminist-induced fantasies with loss of identity, loss of true men at their side, and – and I must become very explicit here – the reduction of many of them to very stupid, but very willing “pump and dump” instruments of those very men from whom they claim to be “emancipated”. Men who, to be explicit again, will use them as long as it suits them, but – if they are manly men, wanting a feminine woman – will often not accept to be willie number eight, or number eighteen, or number who even knows what. This is the crude reality of life and will apply in most cases, because as a rule a man has a very strong instinct of sexual exclusiveness of his mate, which in turn is deeply ingrained in his need to know he is the parent of the offspring; an assurance the woman does not need.
It is so. It is the way God has made the world. He who tells you differently either has no idea of life, or lies.
The emancipation of women has created an army of willing sluts, used by manly men in their best years – the years that should be used to secure the affection of a true man – and married by emasculated sissies as the biological clock starts to tick like it’s the Big Ben. This is a recipe for great disastisfaction on both sides, for reasons so evident I will not bother to explain.
In Frankfurt, last time I looked divorce rate was at 70%, and over there men tend to be so politically correct you would think they would want to be women just out of sheer solidarity.
Basically, marriage has become a time contract. Congratulation. Great progress for women.
Agree that certain rare circumstances place women in leadership roles. The key is that men are eager (manly men of course) to follow them for they know it is their divine Master leading them through her.
Yes, women today are utterly stupid. I was one of them for a decade. Thankfully I have been educated as to the true role of women and my veil has been lifted. It’s freeing to finally fit into the natural role I was born for. Feminism is not the behavior of immature, sex addled, self absorbed, power hungry teenage boys. The lost women of today turn themselves into free whores, killing their own children, destroying their own marriages, castrating any man they know and all so they can be power hungry, vain shallow, materialist narcissists. They think they are so lofty while yet allowing a man to use them like either a tossed out beer bottle or a leased car. In the end they end up broken, alone, and having the dual responsibilities of career and homemaker/child raiser. Per usual, it’s the innocent children who suffer.
But Our Lord isn’t letting this madness continue unabated. He is slowly revealing the madness and thankfully His wisdom so that order can be restored. When the women of the world groan in agony from being fed destructive lies about who they are, it will be the Traditional Church they will run to for healing and sanity:+) God bless you Mundy:+)
Very well said, and thank you!
Saw that interview comment on Fr. Z, and knew you’d say something! A voice of reason in the wilderness you are, M. 🙂
I hope I make of this a blog of quality!
Probably the dumbest Jesuit out there. To laugh at scripture, no, no, no Jorge.
Jorge, God drew woman from man. There were no monkeys.
So true. An army of stupid, willing sluts who are willing or forced into killing their children…. then when their daughters ( if any survived the holocaust) are grown they convince and pressure them to do the same to assuage their guilt and grief. So sad and so true.