“As We Pray For A New Pope…”

Interesting post of the great Father Carota (please keep him in your prayers) about Sedevacantism. Father’s short post does not get into details, but it makes the sound, common sense argument most people will instantly recognise as right because so eminently reasonable and sound. If you want more details as to the issue of how to deal with a heretical Pope, please direct your mouse here

Father Carota’s stance on Sedevacantism is neither new nor surprising. However, one phrase in his blog post is one of those signs of the times.

“As we pray for a new pope we need to ask God for a pope who will be clear and consistent with what the church has taught for 1980 years”.  

The idea that a sound Catholic should pray for a new Pope appears so natural to the writer, that he puts the thought en passant in the argument against Sedevacantism. Of course you pray for a new pope, so bad is this one…

Yours Truly reads, approves, and can’t avoid thinking of all the insults found in his comment box when he himself started to encourage his readers to pray for this pontificate to end one way or another (I have heard abdications are all the rage these days).

We now find the same encouragement, as a matter of course, in blogs written by unquestionably orthodox (and, very probably, saintly) priests; because you see, facts have a way to impress themselves on people even if these people would rather prefer to ignore them. At some point, you can’t avoid the facts staring at you straight in the face. At some point, you realise it is really, really so, and there’s nothing you can do to avoid the stare.

Pray for a new Pope.

This time, hopefully, a Catholic one. 



Posted on November 19, 2015, in Catholicism, Conservative Catholicism, Traditional Catholicism and tagged , . Bookmark the permalink. 11 Comments.

  1. I can never understand how people can consider sedevacantism catholic as it was solemnly condemned by the first Vatican Council. (Canon attached to Chapter 2 of the Dogmatic Constitution 1 on the Church of Christ). The fathers of the aforementioned council understood what an interregnum was. Sedevacantists will frequently cite Suarez and Bellarmine but they were well dead by the time Vatican 1 sat. Christ promised that the Church he founded would last until return. Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia.

    • The fact is that, as Father explains, the absolutely unique situation we are living lures people in the (wrong) sedevacantist position in a way that appears far less unjustifiable now than centuries ago.
      Father says it right when he states that Sedevacantism is the wrogn answer given by good people. However, I normally hasten to add that there is a good dose of hubris involved.

  2. It is a fact – this pope is not a Catholic. I realized it after one of his first interviews given to Scalfari, and became very alarmed for a while. Found no audience which would share my concern. Am I a better Catholic then the pope? – they asked. It seems very hopeless at times. You are right, we should pray.

  3. I have read some very good articles by father Carota, but I ddn’ t know he was a sedevacantist. I have a question, because of my ignorance: isnt’ sedevacantism a heresy?

  4. Mundy, And another interesting post by a priest, one of the Pope’s own Missionaries of Mercy
    And he closes with: Please, Holy Father, grant me your paternal blessing, and be not angry with this your servant:

    Hier stehe ich. Ich kann nicht anders. Gott helfe mir.

  5. Not meant for flattery’s sake, but I remember it well you’re being on a bandwagon of a relative few who even several years back now knew that Bergie was a train wreck. Just about from Day 1.

    You have courage Mundy, and I admire that trait in you. And you were the only blogger going back to that epoch who would even think of posting my comments critical of Frankie. During that period I can’t tell you how many blogs I was tossed from for being truthful concerning Bergo. The very same bloggers who today have wised-up.

    You might have made an excellent military commander; on the other hand, that’s precisely what you’ve turned out to be anyway.

    • Thanks, Francisco.
      Not from day one, I must say.
      At the beginning I reported the comments made from Rorate (who were, actually, the very first to sound the alarm bell thanks to their Argentinian contacts), but decided to suspend the judgment. The populism and easy rhetoric I did not like from the start, but the danger for Catholicism and the extent of the departure from Benedict’s pontificate became apparent to me only later. I gave him the benefit of the doubt once or thrice, and considered the possibility of translation problems; but when it became a matter of simple observation that it was not about occasional translation errors or careless slips (Benedict had his own, too) but an ideology, I started to sound the alarm bells with the outspoken language one has the right to expect from a layman’s blog, and certainly from mine.

  6. “He is not a Sedevacantist, at all.
    Why do you pose such an extraordinary question?”
    I am sorry, English is not my mother tongue and I think I misunderstood one paragraph.

    • Ah, well then…
      Your written English is pretty good, anyway.
      No, the man is not a Sedevacantist.
      He is a priest in good standing in the USA, though born and raised in Mexico from what I understand.

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