About To Go… Where?

How can you even think he will not go to heaven?

The recent, tragic fire in London has not failed to produce the predictable amount of individual destinies and sob stories; something which in more serious times would have been considered very bad journalism for cleaning ladies and is now, actually, mainstream all over the West.

One of these stories is the one of the two Italian concubines living in the tower. At least, this is how a despicable fake Catholic internet publication describes them (without using the word, of course; “couple” is so much more XXI Century).

The horrible publication reports that the woman, in her last phone conversation with her mother in Italy (I know, heartbreaking; but I don't do cheap journalism for cleaning ladies so let's skip on this) would have said to her mother: “I am about to go to heaven”.

There is, in the horrible fake Catholic publication, no hint that the two would have needed to manage a perfect contrition to I do not say go to heaven straight, but – judging from what is plain to see – merely to avoid hell. The sob story is reported as a tale of hope and courage, with no one questioning the apparent self-evident truth of the public adulterer in a state of mortal sin committing a huge sin of presumption with her last breath, and still managing to be canonised by the whining press because hey, we are all teddy bear lovers after all.

Of course, we all wish the unfortunate people a perfect contrition and, one day, a place in paradise. But it is utterly indicative of our times that I might be one among very few pointing out to the extreme danger of damnation in this situation, and to the total absence – in the atrocious, fake Catholic publication reporting the news – of any sign that would induce one to have a reasoned hope that they avoided hell (something like the two kneeling together and praying the Blessed Virgin to forgive their sins with sincere sorrow; but you know how it works). Instead, we have the stunning “I am about to go to heaven” claim which, actually, sounds like the… perfect contrary of a perfect contrition.

This is what the Age of Stupidity has done to people. When they think of heaven, it is only the grotesque version they read about in cheesy Facebook posts. Even the very near approaching of death is – unless we have not been told something – not enough to elicit in people the fear of the Lord, that is: the beginning of wisdom.

Pray for the dead. But for heaven's sake, administer some truth to the living.

M

 

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Posted on June 20, 2017, in Catholicism, Conservative Catholicism, Good Shepherds, Traditional Catholicism and tagged . Bookmark the permalink. 6 Comments.

  1. I read of the two attractive and youthful Italian concubines trapped in the tower and wondered if you, too, had read of the woman’s presumptuous words to her mom and if your coffee exploded out of your mouth

  2. Gino Lollobrigido

    Ciao Mundabor.

    Mah, io direi (senza voler fare buonismo) che non conosciamo lo stato delle loro anime, nè sappiamo se fossero in peccato mortale prima della morte.

    C’era materia grave, ma se ci fosse peccato mortale questo lo sa solo Dio.

    Tieni presente una cosa: è assolutamente vero che la dottrina non cambia. Ciò che era peccato grave nel XVI secolo è peccato grave anche oggi.

    Ciò che può cambiare è la responsabilità personale. Mi spiego meglio: a Firenze nel 2015 l’età media dei matrimoni è stata di 39 anni per gli uomini http://www.redattoresociale.it/Notiziario/Articolo/519154/Matrimoni-cresce-l-eta-media-gli-uomini-si-sposano-a-40-anni

    Ora, effettivamente oggi molti possono sposarsi tardi per varie ragioni che vanno oltre la,propria volontà (prima di tutto il fatto che si studia fino a 25 anni; mentre nel medioevo a 20 anni si era già padri), perciò è effettivamente più facile che nel passato essere in certe situazioni, e la responsabilità morale può essere diminuita dal fatto che non c’è nulla di naturale nell’arrivare vergini a 35/40 anni come dovrebbero fare i moderni.

    Cioè, il peccato è sempre grave, ma le condizioni sociali in cui viviamo possono attenuare l’imputabilità di chi vi si trova coinvolto.

    In caso contrario sarebbe una carneficina, dovremmo pensare che anche tra i cattolici c’è un 90% e oltre di reprobi, cosa che non credo.

    Magari fammi sapere cosa ne pensi. Ciao.

    • Please try to write in English as this blog should not be a private conversation between the two of us.

      You said it very well when you said that what was mortal sin then is mortal sin now.

      I add that whilst in our soft, kind Catholic society private sins were never too closely enquired about, public scandal is public scandal everywhere. That one is excluded from communion says it all.

      Therefore, you can pray that they were saved. But hell is the most probable outcome, and we shouldn’t just hide behind the fact that only God knows, because God told us how he judges.

      M

  3. Gino Lollobrigido

    @Mundabor

    Well, of course ” what was mortal sin then is mortal sin now”, but moral responsibility is a different thing, and not always a situation of grave matter entails formal/mortal sin.

    Besides, in my family there was my cousin, who died in 1995, and the night he died (a car crash, sudden death), he came to visit my aunt and he seemed happy (later on we discovered that he was dead, because the police came to his mother’s house later in that night), even tough, being a young boy, he was one of the countless boys having a girlfriend and premarital sex.

    So yes, it’s true that only God can judge and that cannot assume by “default” that they are saved. But i think that we cannot assume they are damned either, for only God knows the responsibility and the impact of social changings on their life, and how and if this changing has diminished or not diminished their responsibility. The efficacious Grace of God can bring everyone to repentance (anyway only formal/mortal sin sends you to hell if not repented, not merely grave matter).

    If i had to “judge by the book” i would assume that 99% of today catholics are reprobates, and even the most harsh autors say that the majority of adult catholics are saved, thanks to the efficacy of the Sacraments and the power of redemption.

    • I see the dangerous seed of modern thinking in your post.
      That your relative seemed happy is literally neither here nor there. Whether he died in mortal sin is the only thing that count.
      However, reflect that whilst a garden variety fornicator has ready access to the confessional, a public concubine is excluded from it.
      Also, being away from the sacrament deprives the soul of their grace, and the soul slowly but steadily hardens itself to truth.
      On the other consideration I think I will write a blog post.
      My suggestion: free yourself from this thinking, be suitably terrified for your relatives who died suddenly and without the comfort of the sacraments; pray for them, but fear hell a lot and use this fear to pray more.
      We are supposed to be scared shitless of hell. We aren’t supposed to think most of us go to heaven by default, because….

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