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Pius XII And St. Paul On Genesis and Father Barron

Excellent post from this blog page (I hope the link works) with a comparison between Barron’s senseless talk and some sound Catholics like Pope Pius XII and St. Paul.

I invite you to visit the site (the Barron video is posted again), but just in case the blog author were to “pull a Werling” at some point in future it is wise to copy and paste the texts. Emphases of the author. 

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From Humani Generis
37. When, however, there is question of another conjectural opinion, namely polygenism, the children of the Church by no means enjoy such liberty. For the faithful cannot embrace that opinion which maintains that either after Adam there existed on this earth true men who did not take their origin through natural generation from him as from the first parent of all, or that Adam represents a certain number of first parents. Now it is in no way apparent how such an opinion can be reconciled with that which the sources of revealed truth and the documents of the Teaching Authority of the Church propose with regard to original sin, which proceeds from a sin actually committed by an individual Adam and which, through generation, is passed on to all and is in everyone as his own.[12]
 
38. Just as in the biological and anthropological sciences, so also in the historical sciences there are those who boldly transgress the limits and safeguards established by the Church. In a particular way must be deplored a certain too free interpretation of the historical books of the Old Testament. Those who favor this system, in order to defend their cause, wrongly refer to the Letter which was sent not long ago to the Archbishop of Paris by the Pontifical Commission on Biblical Studies.[13] This letter, in fact, clearly points out that the first eleven chapters of Genesis, although properly speaking not conforming to the historical method used by the best Greek and Latin writers or by competent authors of our time, do nevertheless pertain to history in a true sense, which however must be further studied and determined by exegetes; the same chapters, (the Letter points out), in simple and metaphorical language adapted to the mentality of a people but little cultured, both state the principal truths which are fundamental for our salvation, and also give a popular description of the origin of the human race and the chosen people. If, however, the ancient sacred writers have taken anything from popular narrations (and this may be conceded), it must never be forgotten that they did so with the help of divine inspiration, through which they were rendered immune from any error in selecting and evaluating those documents.
 
39. Therefore, whatever of the popular narrations have been inserted into the Sacred Scriptures must in no way be considered on a par with myths or other such things, which are more the product of an extravagant imagination than of that striving for truth and simplicity which in the Sacred Books, also of the Old Testament, is so apparent that our ancient sacred writers must be admitted to be clearly superior to the ancient profane writers.
From St. Paul

Romans 5:12-19 (RSV) Therefore as sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all men sinned — [13] sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. [14] Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sins were not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come. [15] But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man’s trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift in the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many. [16] And the free gift is not like the effect of that one man’s sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brings justification. [17] If, because of one man’s trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ. [18] Then as one man’s trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one man’s act of righteousness leads to acquittal and life for all men.[19] For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by one man’s obedience many will be made righteous.

1 Corinthians 15:21-22 For as by a man came death, by a man has come also the resurrection of the dead. [22] For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.

1 Corinthians 15:45-49 Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. [46] But it is not the spiritual which is first but the physical, and then the spiritual. [47] The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven. [48] As was the man of dust, so are those who are of the dust; and as is the man of heaven, so are those who are of heaven. [49] Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven.

 Continuing: 

the view of a non-literal, non-historical Adam is also contrary to the understanding of the Blessed Virgin Mary as the second Eve: a motif very common in the Church fathers and in Catholic Mariology ever since their time. If there wasn’t a literal Eve who said “no” to God, then by analogy there would be no literal Mary who said “yes” and made redemption possible, in terms of being the Mother of (the incarnate) God (the Son). 

Therefore, just as the Pauline analogy of Adam and second Adam (Christ) requires a literal understanding, so does the Eve-Mary analogy. Just as there was a literal Adam who really fell (and the human race with him (Rom 5:15; 1 Cor 15:22), thus requiring the redemption of Christ, so there was a real historical Eve who said “no” to God, and hence by analogy, a real Mary who said yes and led the way to redemption by being the Mother of (the incarnate) God.

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There is more on the site, which again I invite you to visit. I will do so as time allows. 

I allow myself for now merely to remark that what goes against 2,000 years of Christian thinking must be, after a two-seconds reflection, forcibly wrong even if it seems to appease the fashion of the time. Once again, it is proven a peasant with a pure heart and respect for what is taught to him has a better sensus catholicus than these vainglorious bringers of novelty and confusion, who remind me rather of Monthy Python’s crazy prophets.   

I for myself will continue to pray the Blessed Virgin: “To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve”. No, I mean in the literal sense. Really.  

Please, Lord: if these people are intelligent, let me die stupid.  

Mundabor

Father Barron And The Non-Violent God.

Listening to the video of Father Barron about the Adam that “stands for arts, for science, for politics, for conversation, for friendship” and all that crap rather than being, well, Adam as the Bible says and we stupid Christians have believed all this time, another senseless comparison should get our attention: the non-violent God.  

Barron, like Francis, is so bent on making God palatable to modern sensitivities, that he forgets God in the process. Therefore, he must concoct a “non-violent” God who, in Gandhi-like fashion, creates the world without those horrible bloody conflicts  present in other mythologies.  

As he speaks, Barron is so pleased with himself – you see it all the time in that kind of half smirk he always carries on his face; as if he were amusedly surprised that humanity had to wait for him to properly understand things – that he neglects to mention the many episodes in which God is all but non-violent. You should just ask the Sodomites for some info. You would be surprised. Hhmmm… not much Gandhi there. 

Barron is the perfect priest of the Francis’ era.

A smiling rapist of Truth, for the sake of an applause. 

Mundabor

Father Barron And No End

And it came to pass Father Barton told us Adam is a literary figure. Google it please, I have no time for the video link right now.

Let us think this to the end.

If Adam is a literary figure, then we cannot have inherited Original Sin from him. There can, in fact, be no Original Sin whatsoever, then there would be no single origin for it. But Originsl Sin is the reason why Christ died on the cross: to redeem us from it.

If, therefore, Adam is a literary figure, then everything can become a literary device. Did Jesus really die on the Cross to free us from… well, what exactly?

I suspect one could go on forever with this train of thought, and carpet bomb Christianity until only Father Barron and Bishop Francis thinks it's still the religion of our forefathers.

I am eagerly awaiting for Barton to offer retract action and apology.

By the way, his arrogant and rebellious statements are beautiful evidence that he is, most certainly, a descendant of Adam and Eve.

But then again, this is one who thinks hell might be empty…

Mundabor


The Way That Leadeth To Father Barron

This fine Michael Voris video puts at the centre of our attention a very simple concept: some clergymen will not allow a small nuisance like Our Lord to get in the way of their own marketing effort.

This is very evident in the effort of Father Barron to downplay or even deny the existence of hell as a concrete possibility for the likes of you and me – and, very obviously, for the likes of him -.

Voris makes an obvious point: when you start to doubt Hell as a concrete possibility for everyone of us you have undermined the very core of the message of Christ. But then again, there are a lot of clergymen around (and I do not except the Bishop of Rome; most certainly not) who truly seem not to have any idea of what Christianity is about.

One must not agree with Voris’ every word, but it is very difficult to disagree with the message.

Personally, I am more optimistic than he is concerning the chances of salvation of baptised Catholics, following the opinion of Garrigou-Lagrange and his serene confidence God’s efficacious grace irresistibly takes many baptised Christians, and a bigger number of Catholics, out of the worst; but then again, when Garrigou-Lagrange thought of a generic “Christian” or “Catholic” in 1950 he had in mind a much different person from a generic “Catholic” in 2013; a time when, if you observe reality for what it is, not even the Pope gives a damn for orthodoxy.

I doubt Francis is any better than Barron. I truly do. I think the main difference between the two is that Francis is Pope and Barron isn’t, so the former can only clearly hint at what the second feels free to openly state.

The fact is that the Barrons of the world have created a fertile ground for Francis, but Francis’ Papacy in turn creates the conditions for many little Bergoglios (let’s call them the Bergoglini) to go on with their work of destruction undisturbed. Give Francis ten years (Lord: please, please not!) and you will see an astonishing number of Barrons around.

Wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat. It seems to me Francis’ and Barron’s way leadeth straight to the wall; or much, much worse.

Mundabor

Real Hell And Fantasy Hell

I chanced upon two very different “visions” of hell in two days, and thought I would give them to you without comment.

It goes without saying that to me one is completely right, and the other tragically wrong.

But do not listen to me.

A) Father Barron on Hell

B) Father Z on Hell. 

Who do you think is right?

(Cough…)

Please listen and read twice. You’ll notice a lot of details coming to light in both cases…

Mundabor

600 Minutes of Catholicism

Ten hours of education and instruction.

Father Barron is going to lead his viewers on a long journey of discovery of Catholicism, 10 episodes of 60 minutes each.

The series will be called Catholicism (these days, a provocative title in itself) and one can be sure that it will make some waves.

If properly made, the potential for this series is huge. Millions of people might, in time, start to see a chunk of it only because of curiosity and be captured by the assault Barron plans on his mind and on his senses (exploring the arts, the thinking, the logic, the complex theology and the beauty of Catholicism).

If made badly this could be, of course, an equally dangerous boomerang, particularly if the series will be heavily tinged with nu-Catholic, Vatican-II tones.

I truly, truly hope that the temptation will be resisted to make a “popular” product and to say the things that do not offend the viewer. in my eyes, what Catholicism needs is to finally start saying again what the viewer do not want to hear, and to attack the anti-Catholic prejudice head on rather than keep whining and apologising for the homosexual priest scandal whilst the tambourines play in the background and we are explained how environmentally friendly Catholicism is.

We shall see.

At least this is a chance.

Mundabor

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