After Mueller’s Appointment, Modernist Troops Take The Offensive
The appointment of Archbishop Mueller to the CDF was the signal for the Modernist troops to start an attack in defence of the money they cash from the not-so-faithful in Germany, Austria and Switzerland.
This time, the openly heretical assertions come fromt he youngest Cardinal, Woelki, an appointment of Pope Benedict both as Archbishop and Cardinal.
Woelki, whose diocese lies in Berlin (last time I looked, the city in Europe with most lesbians compared to the population), is reported by the Tablet as follows
Commenting on gay men in relationships he said he tried not to see them as just violating natural law but as people trying to take responsibility for each other in lasting partnerships. “We must find a way of allowing people to live without going against church teaching,” he said.
I do not know whether the Cardinal really said (the Tablet might have twisted his real words) about perverts “trying to take responsibility”, which is as intelligent and as Christian as to say that a paedophile is trying to take responsibility for the child he rapes, or a zoophile for the dog he screws. I do not doubt the Cardinal’s concept, as truly expressed, were alarming enough. But the words literally quoted are of the same heretic content: in the view of the Cardinal, it is not people who have to conform their actions to church teaching, but the church teaching which must be conformed to their actions; they can, otherwise, evidently “not live”.
This is another brilliant appointment of Pope Benedict. This man will contribute to the election of the new Pope. The Vatican – this man is a Cardinal, remember – is rapidly becoming a theological madhouse, with particularly the German prelates doing whatever they can in order not to lose the money of the Kirchensteuer, which makes of the German church the wealthiest on the planet.
I sincerely hope the Cardinal (who according to Wikipedia had a rather good start as Archbishop, saying that homosexual acts are against the order of creation: which is obvious, but in these times not automatically said) will now correct the “Tablet” and either point out to their mistake and interpretation errors, or else make it very clear that he is true to the line. Possibly without V -II quibbles and explanations as to how freedom is slavery, and war is peace.
Otherwise… otherwise, what? Can you imagine Archbishop Mueller really forcing this man to orthodoxy? Really?
It may well be that Pope Benedict has plunged us in the most serious crisis in the history of the church. This new phase of the crisis might develop with assorted – mainly German-speaking – Cardinals expressing themselves in the usual duplicitous, slimy way – see above – against every Church rule and doctrine staying between them and the money of their poor sheep. The Vatican would, then, do nothing beyond the usual feeble meowing every now and then, in order to hide behind the fig leaf of pretended orthodoxy whilst allowing the German (and other) Cardinals to be perceived to be “modern” and “on the side of the people” by their sugar daddies.
The Holy Father will in the meantime, no doubt, work on his next book.
Posted on July 8, 2012, in Bad Shepherds, Catholicism and tagged Archbishop Mueller, Cardinal Rainer Woelki, Conservative Catholic, conservative catholicism, homosexuality, so-called "gays", Sodomy. Bookmark the permalink. 4 Comments.
he really said it. His words have not been twisted (source: kath.net):
“In dem Interview warnte der Berliner Erzbischof zugleich vor einer Verurteilung von Homosexuellen. Auch der katholische Katechismus mahne, dass homosexuelle Menschen nicht «in ungerechter Weise zurückgesetzt» werden dürften. «Wenn ich das ernst nehme, darf ich in homosexuellen Beziehungen nicht ausschließlich den Verstoß gegen das natürliche Gesetz sehen», fügte der Kardinal hinzu. «Ich versuche auch wahrzunehmen, dass da Menschen dauerhaft füreinander Verantwortung übernehmen, sich Treue versprochen haben und füreinander sorgen wollen, auch wenn ich einen solchen Lebensentwurf nicht teilen kann.» Die katholische Kirche stehe ein für die sakramentale Ehe zwischen einem Mann und einer Frau, die offen ist für die Weitergabe des Lebens.”
Just for your information: Both Woelki and Müller are perceived as conservative in Germany, and not just by the usual hardline liberals. In fact, with the possible exception of Cardinal Meisner and Tebartz-van Elst, they are among the most conservative, least modernist Bishops we have. You should hear people like Lehmann, Bode, Marx (not Karl…) or Fürst. Compared to them, Müller and Woelki sound like Fellay.
Thanks Catocon, the text is actually devastating. And this would be a “conservative” Cardinal?
I would not want to be the one who allowed these people to reach such positions.
As they say in Italy, il piu’ pulito ha la rogna…
Oh good grief. Seeing it in German, of which I speak a little, is really quite crushing. I should like to see the Mueller quotes in German too and choke down the lot, but this is more than bad enough. If you don’t mind me quoting the Catechism, which we have all read, at you ‘the sin of Sodom’ [sodomy, not inhospitality as I have sometimes, mercifully not in my parish, read – ‘that we may know them’ followed immediately by another use of ‘know’ as a metaphor for ‘have sexual relations with’ makes it pretty clear!] ‘cries out to heaven for vengeance’. We must of course show those who are fighting the temptation to indulge in sinful acts compassion and help them to overcome it, but the very idea of the Church providing a system “We must find a way of allowing people to live without going against church teaching, in effect, to allow people to practise sodomy is appalling. If Card. Woelki is a conservative, Mundabor, I need to remember your quote that you can lose faith in the Churchmen but not in the Church.
Remember away, Duns, as you will need to do this often in your life.
If you think that these German prelates have they keys of the strongbox, and the Vatican seems very interested in keeping the money flowing in the strongbox too, you’ll understand all this extraordinary “attention” for perverts, divorcees, and concubines, under the travesty of charity.
As to sodomy, the good thing of catholicism is that th edeposit of faith is so granitic no one can (as they would do in a Protestant congregation) try to smuggle “alternative” interpretations. Still, you see when a Prince of the Church has decided to prostitute himself to the dominant opinion, he’ll find some quibbles to try to achieve almost the same result.