Cardinal George Speaks. Mundabor Translates Into English.
From the recent interview of Cardinal George with a magazine that, for the sake of your children, shall not be linked to.
The question is raised, why doesn’t he himself clarify these things? Why is it necessary that apologists have to bear that burden of trying to put the best possible face on it? Does he not realize the consequences of some of his statements, or even some of his actions? Does he not realize the repercussions? Perhaps he doesn’t. I don’t know whether he’s conscious of all the consequences of some of the things he’s said and done that raise these doubts in people’s minds.
Courtesy of Yours Truly, the English version.
We are all sick and tired of what this man is doing, so we must say that “questions are raised”. We all know the man sows confusion on purpose, which is why he never clarifies anything. But you see, we Cardinals must pretend he isn’t a darn heretic, at least for now. It makes one vomit that everytime this joker opens his mouth we and other must run to the rescue like we are the Fire Frigade fighting a permanent Chicago Fire. He cannot fool us: of course we know he fully realises the consequences of all his statements and his actions: it is why he does all of it! But look, this is all unprintable. So let me put it to you in the form of four very rhetorical questions in rapid succession: this way, even the slower minds will understand that we really are fed up. Then let me fire another salvo by stating that perhaps he is just gaga, so we do not know whether he is conscious of the fact that he is sabotaging catholicism at every turn. We know he isn’t, of course. But truly, at this point we have no other way to try to explain to the faithful the behaviour of this clown.
There.
From Cardinalese to proper English.
You are welcome.
Mundabor
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Posted on November 21, 2014, in Catholicism, Conservative Catholicism, Traditional Catholicism. Bookmark the permalink. 13 Comments.
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How frustrating to not know what Cardinal George said and which magazine he was speaking to. Loved the take you had on it bu tit was a bit one sided for me ( although your take was taken for granted, to be spot on)
All the best.
Momangelica.
You don’t want to know.
Bad people.
Better left unsaid.
M
This month in the Huffington Post the article reads:
Chicago Archdiocese Released Documents Showing How It Hid Sexual Abuse Of Children
CHICAGO (AP) — The Archdiocese of Chicago on Thursday released thousands of internal documents showing how it hid the sexual abuse of children by 36 priests, adding to similar disclosures made earlier this year and fulfilling a pledge by an ailing Cardinal Francis George to release the files before he retires later this month.
“We cannot change the past but we hope we can rebuild trust through honest and open dialogue,” George said in a statement released overnight. “Child abuse is a crime and a sin.”
The archdiocese in January released 6,000 documents on 30 abusive priests as part of a legal settlement with victims, and on Thursday posted online 15,000 more records related to 36 others and involving abuse allegations dating to the early 1950s. The files only cover cases in which the archdiocese substantiated the abuse, and don’t include those against priests who died before their accusers came forward or those who served in religious orders.
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As one blogger stated: “Where are the catholics to scream that all this is a plot by the press and the enemies of the catholic church? They did it for years, denying the priest’s crimes, denying the covering up of the crimes by the church hierarchy. Where are the so good catholics to say that the present pope’s statement, “no one has done more than the catholic church to fight against sexual abuse,” is just an enormous joke?! And a very bad one! ”
As Pope Francis stated earlier this year:
“In his interview with Corriere della Sera published on Wednesday, Pope Francis said: “The Catholic Church is perhaps the only public institution to have acted with transparency and responsibility.
“No-one else has done more. Yet the Church is the only one to have been attacked.”
He also questioned the focus of the debate, saying: “The statistics on the phenomenon of violence against children are shocking, but they also clearly show that the great majority of abuses are carried out in family or neighbourhood environments.”
I can not find the words. I cry with anger, disgust and find it revolting that records and actions to this day are slow in being addressed with swift action taken when accusations are proved to be true. The records are released at the end of the Cardinals time in office when they should have been released by him at the time of occurrence, Shame on the Cardinal.
As for Pope Francis. He MUST repent, change and convert to Catholicism or resign now.
George Brenner
Your fluency in the English language is impressive, M!
Interesting. That is pretty much what I thought was said, but not knowing Cardinalese I couldn’t be too sure. (That language has many nuances, you know…) Thank you for the translation! You provided a great public service.
🙂 Heh. Thank you very much.
Dear Mundabor, (We realize this is likely too long to list as a comment, but present it to you, for your consideration, anyway) 🙂 🙂
You wrote: “perhaps he is just gaga -so we do not know whether he is conscious of the fact that he is sabotaging catholicism at every turn.”
-and then concluded: “We know he isn’t, of course.”
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Are you sure? We used to think that way, too.
But according to the dictionary, insanity in criminal jurisdictions is “a degree of mental malfunctioning sufficient to relieve the accused of legal responsibility for the act committed.” Have you tried making sense of more than two consecutive statements made by him?
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One good example- from the now infamous “America” magazine interview:
“The dogmatic and moral teachings of the church are not all equivalent. The church’s pastoral ministry cannot be obsessed with the transmission of a disjointed multitude of doctrines to be imposed insistently. Proclamation in a missionary style, focuses on the ESSENTIALS, on THE NECESSARY THINGS: THIS IS ALSO WHAT FASCINTATES, AND ATTRACTS MORE, what makes the heart burn, AS IT DID for the disciples at Emmaus. WE HAVE TO FIND A NEW BALANCE; OTHERWISE even the moral edifice of THE CHURCH IS LIKELY TO FALL LIKE A HOUSE OF CARDS, losing the freshness and fragrance of the Gospel.”
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In this singe paragraph, comprised of only three basic points:
-1. He proposes that the Church’s ministry (to the world) needs to be re-focussed back onto essentials 2. He declares those to be what “fascinate and attract more”, making the heart burn as those on the road to Emmaus, and .3. He concludes with the warning that we have to find a new BALANCE, or the Church will fall like a house of cards.
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a. We all know the essentials are the things for which Christ said the world would hate us.
b. We know that those on the road to Emaus, were ALREADY disciples,therefore not among those in the world still in need of the ministry of which he is speaking.
c. Balance between WHAT? His two points refer only to speaking of multiple doctrines or focussing in on esentials, which latter point he already proposed as the only solution.
d. If we theorize he means to suggest we find a balance between those essentials the Church much teach, and what the world WANTS to hear, then we find him contradicting himself , as he declared those essentials to be “WHAT FASCINATES AND ATTRACTS MORE”
e. His apocalyptic threat of the Church falling apart if we don’t find this mysterious balance, directly contradicts
1.. Jesus’ assurance that the gates of hell shall not prevail, and
2.. 2,000 years of teaching on indefectibility-based on that assurance.
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If he’s not ” mentally malfunctioning”, then WE may soon be, if we keep trying to apply simple principles of logic and reason to what he writes and says. Bottom line, We’re not yet convinced he isn’t- “gaga” 🙂 🙂
I’m merely translating the Cardinal.
I personally am persuaded that sabotaging Catholicism is what keeps him alive.
M
Great translation, chapeau!
Rhizotomos
Christus vincit, Christus regnat, Christus imperat!
Cardinal George was light years better than the crafty arch-liberal Bernardin but he never cleaned the hard core liberals out of his chancery so his years in Chicago are a very much mixed bag. With Soupitch, a most disgusting man and Francis sycophant in town traditionalist priests are probably looking for other dioceses to flee to as he will probably be quick to launch a pogrom against all three of them. What Chicago needed for the sake of countless souls here was a very smart and courageous traditionalist to lead it, what we got is precisely the opposite. Stupeitch could be here as long as 20 years, if so, there will be little left for him to destroy by the time he is through, but the faith dies and rises again from the grave as did Our Lord and once the liberals are through with their depredations it will rise again in the most surprising places, even Chicago.
Hopefully, when we have a new Pope Cupich will be transferred to the Gaza Strip, to care for the local poor.
I know I would.
M
How come a prince of the Church is giving interviews to bad people? Apart from this I do hope they manage to have him committed although that still leaves us in a sorry state in terms of papal condidates. Not to mention the fact that we’d have 3 “popes” to cope with.
It happens all the time.
It happens either because the prince itself is evil (look at Francis and Scalfaro), or because they think they can, in this way, reach a wide Catholic audience.
I think the method wrong. In my book, a Prince of the Church should only give interviews to those outlets who are, at the very least, not tainted with dissent and “liberal” Catholicism.
M